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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.17 01:25:00 -
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Titans do not have enough EHP to make them worth using on the frontlines. Also, it would be nice if you considered adding an optimal range bonus as well so titans weren't required to sit at such a terrible range where they would still be nearly instapopped by any respectable capital fleet.
Also, the new doomsday module isn't strong enough to kill a t2 fit dread with t1 trimarks, overloading a single race-specific hardner on a moros with an EANM and a damage control allows it to survive with about 25% armor. This is with a DD 5 Erebus firing. DD ROF should be increased to about thirty seconds or one minute. It wouldn't be amazingly overpowered and fuel would be a limiting factor.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.17 01:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Deva Blackfire
so what you are proposing is about 20 blasts per titan (cargo+corporate) till it runs out of fuel. lets say 15 for sake of simplicity (+jump fuel etc).
with your idea 5 titans (which isnt super-rare amount of ships) can vaporize 5-10 dreads per minute (you can include their own DPS to finish off partially damaged ships). 7,5 minutes = 15 shots (at 30sec rof) = 75 dreads dead = around 150mil damage on HP (actually more, but whatever)
at the same time 75 dreads can barely cause ~72mil damage to HP (counted 5 dreads less every 30 seconds). Balanced? yeah...
Pretty much 5 titans can wipe out 75 dreads and lose only 1 titan in the process (assuming gang skills/mods + decent-expensive fit).
So... what do you propose as a counter to lets say 6 titans? And then 7? 8? 10? Another "rebalance" or "nerf" patch within 6-12 months?
It would take 75 dreads about two minutes to kill a titan on sisi right now, maybe three if you had ~15 triage carriers repping the titan. Any decent alliance (or coalition) could get 75 dreads together fairly easily. Not to mention that you could also bring your own titans, motherships, etc.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.17 09:49:00 -
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Increasing base resists on the titan (and possibly lowering trueHP although it wouldn't really be needed since they're a bit low on EHP after the boost) would do well for making them more prevalent on the front lines of conflicts. Improving the resists would give RR higher efficiency and allow triage carriers to be of more use in supporting titans against massive (>100 cap) dreadfleets which are quite prevalent today. Right now, titans probably wouldn't be able to stand more than a minute or two of direct fire before dying.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.18 00:19:00 -
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Nothing will 3 volley a decently fit mothership. After refitting for something that would be decent post-patch the Erebus has about 46m EHP (assuming it's boosting itself, all level 5 skills) which is pretty decent. I'm still not convinced they would be worthwhile to use on the frontlines without a decent resist buff, but it's a good step in the right direction.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.18 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: Manfred Sideous
Im just gonna float this fart into the wind.
How about leaving titan bonuses as they are now in SISI. Turn the DD module into a special Titan siege module. Depending on the level of the module it increases ROF , EHP , and dmg Mod of the turrets. Make it a 5 min siege so not so long. Like all siege the titan would be immobile. Anyway thoughts?
It would never be used.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.25 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: Zeveron
Use the 5% electronic implant (slot 6).
You can fit 7 launchers only with maxed skills and that implant.
You cant fit a bcu, and thats with a standard 1x booster, 2x amps setup.
Btw, I wana know the fitting of the Leviathan which can tank 20 dreads with overheat.
Since i have 80-90% resists the overheat bonus on the hards is not that much.
And the boost ammount isnt that much either for 2-3 mins.
I dont see that happening unless you put 3x amps and 2 boosters, and with that setup you cannot tank 6x dreads w/o overheat if you have perma cap.
Yaay pls clarify what and how you were testing :-)
Rag and Levi really could use a boost of CPU, also, why would you ever put amps on a titan? A titan shouldn't be able to tank 20 dreads solo, but they should be able to quite easily with a few triage carriers.
Other than that, Yaay is crazy. I don't think he realizes SISI testing will never be able to simulate the same kind of situations that occur on TQ.
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.25 08:07:00 -
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Originally by: Yaay
Viper, I don't use Imagination land when I post something, I use previous experience, thorough testing is real situations, and lots and lots of numbers crunching.
I may be a loud mouth, but I assure you I have a base for my words. And I'm always the first one to admit I'm incorrect about something, I just expect a factual answer rather than a you're wrong because I said so arguement from people.
I'm sorry, I was going to type up a long post and counterbalance your arguments but after looking at those fits I realized it would be a lost cause.
CCCs and SBAs on a titan, really?
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.25 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Zeveron
Why not?
I used them on my current fit too and I can warp nearly as fast as other titans can warp (arround 20s), have better cap recharge and better tank than most of them, for emergency situations.
I am not gona post my fitting, but its a combo of tank and nano.
In what possible situation would a dual rep, SBA'd, CCC'd personal tank be better than a tripple CDFE pure brick (possibly with a CSB only because of stacking) in a real-world situation on TQ? Honestly I can't think of any, especially post patch.
I have no problem posting the fit I currently use, and I'll say it includes 1istab, 1 low-fric, 2 trimark, a mwd and that the rest is pure buffer/tank (aside from two cap rechargers). Post-patch I will probably even drop the rep off to gain additional EHP (as well as the istab and low-fric)
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Viper ShizzIe
The Illuminati.
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2009.09.25 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Yaay
It's a difference in philosophy. You're saying it won't work because it's not how you would use it. People who do use it know its limitations and it's purposes and act accordingly.
I think most competent alliances that are capable (and willing) of deploying titans in situations where they're at risk will have multiple triage carriers on grid to assist it, there's simply no reason to have a personal rep or mods that assist personal repping at that point.
For reference, my titan has ~47m EHP (on SISI, so the numbers are probably different than EFT). I see no reason to have a personal rep or any kind of significant cap recharge. Neither are going to do anything significant to save the ship if it gets dropped on, the only thing that will really matter at that point is how long the titan can last while its support kills the hostile fleet, and how many remote rep cycles can get in during that time.
Also, I edited in a response to one of your posts above in my previous.
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